Friends,
I know a very powerful hypnotist who is interested in doing a freeze video with me. So I am hiring an Asian model (or two) to go through a hypnosis session, where she will be planted trigger words to make her freeze on command while conscious/unconscious.
My hypnotist knows Saimin (Japanese hypnosis), which is extremely powerful and can in some situations force a person against her will. He will test the subjects and take only those who have the capability to go into deep deep trance (about 5% of the population according to him). So this is definitely real.
Theme will be around prank/humiliation - mannequin - freeze her in shower, changing room, daily activities, etc. . . similar to Lord Hypno's amazing work, but there may be more of a story line to it.
Now, I need a show of hands of who want this to be PG-13 and who want it not to be PG-13. Because the models charge more for nudity, I need to know how much you are willing to pay for materials with nudity and materials without. The video will be around two hours long. DVD - of course.
The DVD will be shot from a first person perspective - so when you watch it, you will feel as if you are the person doing the tricks. Feel free to give me ideas on potential skits to be played out - 2 hours is a long time.
Cheers,
Danai
Freeze video in the making - need opinions!
Yeah, I don't have a problem with nudity either, just as long as it doesn't turn into porn. But judging by the way you're thinking of filming it, it shouldn't be a problem.
If you don't mind a bit of a mess, you could go for the classic water-pouring freeze in which someone is frozen while pouring a glass of water or some other liquid. Some other tricks I can think of include switching the stuff she holds in one hand to the other and freezing her then changing the channel on the TV, turning the page in a book, etc.
If you don't mind a bit of a mess, you could go for the classic water-pouring freeze in which someone is frozen while pouring a glass of water or some other liquid. Some other tricks I can think of include switching the stuff she holds in one hand to the other and freezing her then changing the channel on the TV, turning the page in a book, etc.
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I love the idea...nudity not necessary. I would pay $25-30 for this...maybe more, if the previews look good.
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Re: Freeze video in the making - need opinions!
Thanks your idea sound's goodDanai wrote: similar to Lord Hypno's amazing work
Danai
i'm with zero on idea also lot's of start's and stop's, maybe move her when she's frozen turn her around
something else i could never do was make her NOT know who you are but you there with a remote that work's on her like the story "a Fight of Fancy
by EHY" you be really cool with me
Oh and Danai if your deal with your hypnotist Friend fall thru i would be More then Happy to Step in and Play hypnotist
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Preliminary skit and idea
Here is my tentative skit - the actual session may differ from this depending on the susceptability of the subject. My hypnotist friend seems very confident - so I think we are in good hands. I am choosing to go with nudity but no sex.
Commands include a) Freeze = time-stop - frozen and unconscious, b) Pause = frozen but still conscious, c) Sleep = back to trance, d) forget = forget anything that has happened over the past two hours.
1. Test commands after induction. Leave subject in "freeze" or "pause" and see differences in reactions - move her around. Since I will not be involved in the induction session, I will be a stranger to her everytime I trigger the phrase "forget." So, this should work for Lordhypno's suggestion where the subject does not know who I am but I can control her.
2. "Freeze" tricks including freezing her while we play cards and win over, freezing her over lunch and changes the food, freezing her as she watches TV and change the channels, freezing her as she walks and changes her direction, etc. More advice and ideas on this one please.
3. "Pause" tricks - these will be more towards humiliation and control themes. So I will be using this together with the "forget" command. Skits will include pausing her in mid strides, pausing her in her shower, pausing her as she is changing her clothes, pausing her as she tries to escape . . . these bits will include nudity. After each individual skit, a forget trigger will be used to erase previous memories.
I am a fan of shooting long freeze clips - meaning that I will keep the subject frozen for up to 3 minutes at a time and circle around her to shoot - from different angles - rather than multiple short freeze sequences. I think it feels more real that way. Since this is a first-person perspective real time production, the effect should be quite real to the
viewer.
More ideas please and also opinion on physical attribute of the model.
Danai
Commands include a) Freeze = time-stop - frozen and unconscious, b) Pause = frozen but still conscious, c) Sleep = back to trance, d) forget = forget anything that has happened over the past two hours.
1. Test commands after induction. Leave subject in "freeze" or "pause" and see differences in reactions - move her around. Since I will not be involved in the induction session, I will be a stranger to her everytime I trigger the phrase "forget." So, this should work for Lordhypno's suggestion where the subject does not know who I am but I can control her.
2. "Freeze" tricks including freezing her while we play cards and win over, freezing her over lunch and changes the food, freezing her as she watches TV and change the channels, freezing her as she walks and changes her direction, etc. More advice and ideas on this one please.
3. "Pause" tricks - these will be more towards humiliation and control themes. So I will be using this together with the "forget" command. Skits will include pausing her in mid strides, pausing her in her shower, pausing her as she is changing her clothes, pausing her as she tries to escape . . . these bits will include nudity. After each individual skit, a forget trigger will be used to erase previous memories.
I am a fan of shooting long freeze clips - meaning that I will keep the subject frozen for up to 3 minutes at a time and circle around her to shoot - from different angles - rather than multiple short freeze sequences. I think it feels more real that way. Since this is a first-person perspective real time production, the effect should be quite real to the
viewer.
More ideas please and also opinion on physical attribute of the model.
Danai
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Yeah, since there is hypnosis aspect to this this freeze movie(even though what I'm suggesting is not a freeze) I would like to see her do some funny things, like just command her to do things unwittingly, but like when she does it, she acts as if she's wnating to do it and that it's not against her will. It can be a number of funny things that look ridiculous or not normal to do.
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Re: Preliminary skit and idea
I like the concept and would pay $20 - $35 for such a DVD, but I have to say that I'm not too keen about the commands/triggers. They're too obvious. It's nothing new. I'd look for something to trigger the desired freezes that isn't obvious. For instance, for freeze, do a clap-off, clap-on type of trigger. For pause, the click of a mechanical stopwatch perhaps with some audio of a ticking watch subtly applied to those portions of the video.
Aim higher for some of your freeze scenes. Don't just freeze them to have a freeze scene. If the model is changing clothes, have her slow freeze into a mannequin, aware that she is changing and can't stop the process.
If the model is showering, let the water become cold, making her cold and then freezing her solidly (and safely) in place as she tries to get out of the shower.
If I saw concepts like this integrated into your production, I'd definitely purchase a DVD.
Aim higher for some of your freeze scenes. Don't just freeze them to have a freeze scene. If the model is changing clothes, have her slow freeze into a mannequin, aware that she is changing and can't stop the process.
If the model is showering, let the water become cold, making her cold and then freezing her solidly (and safely) in place as she tries to get out of the shower.
If I saw concepts like this integrated into your production, I'd definitely purchase a DVD.
Danai wrote:Here is my tentative skit - the actual session may differ from this depending on the susceptability of the subject. My hypnotist friend seems very confident - so I think we are in good hands. I am choosing to go with nudity but no sex.
Commands include a) Freeze = time-stop - frozen and unconscious, b) Pause = frozen but still conscious, c) Sleep = back to trance, d) forget = forget anything that has happened over the past two hours.
1. Test commands after induction. Leave subject in "freeze" or "pause" and see differences in reactions - move her around. Since I will not be involved in the induction session, I will be a stranger to her everytime I trigger the phrase "forget." So, this should work for Lordhypno's suggestion where the subject does not know who I am but I can control her.
2. "Freeze" tricks including freezing her while we play cards and win over, freezing her over lunch and changes the food, freezing her as she watches TV and change the channels, freezing her as she walks and changes her direction, etc. More advice and ideas on this one please.
3. "Pause" tricks - these will be more towards humiliation and control themes. So I will be using this together with the "forget" command. Skits will include pausing her in mid strides, pausing her in her shower, pausing her as she is changing her clothes, pausing her as she tries to escape . . . these bits will include nudity. After each individual skit, a forget trigger will be used to erase previous memories.
I am a fan of shooting long freeze clips - meaning that I will keep the subject frozen for up to 3 minutes at a time and circle around her to shoot - from different angles - rather than multiple short freeze sequences. I think it feels more real that way. Since this is a first-person perspective real time production, the effect should be quite real to the
viewer.
More ideas please and also opinion on physical attribute of the model.
Danai
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I would also be willing to pay a good $20-30 for such a film - maybe more if the quality is there.
I think most of the suggestions boil down to a few key ideas:
1. Quality freezes: This places emphasis on not just how much freezing there is but rather on how 'good' the freezing is.
What makes a good freeze is a) how stiff she looks (limbs staying in place, etc.), b) how aware or unaware she is (blank eyes staring straight ahead or fixed looking somewhere), and c) how it is conducted (so lots of camera angles and model repositioning (head, limbs, legs) is encouraged, including carrying her). For example, one of Lord Hypno's best subjects would freeze in a sitting position, and as he tried to lift her up her knees would remain locked and bent - he had to physically straighten her legs to stand her up.
2. Get creative: I realize this would be your first movie so obviously you will be learning as you go, but many of us have seen a lot of freezing by a lot of different women, both actresses and hypnotic subjects. We are looking for something new, so any ideas with some originality to them will make your work stand out.
A few ideas that may be good (and have been rarely seen):
I - Extend the freezes enough for you to have fun with them. Putting the girl in awkward positions (sometimes ridiculous) will be very successful. The more unnatural things are the better. Or you could even freeze her and display her as a mannequin for a few minutes, even placing her on a pedestal with a glass base (etc.) Test the limits of the freeze's power over her.
II - Changing costumes - this is a bit tricky but if your model is ok with some nudity you can use freezing to change her clothes while she is unaware. This is rarely seen but I feel would be quite popular.
III - Incorporate some action into the freezing - this is where many people differ, but I think there is a substantial amount of fans that enjoy seeing women move while 'under control'. Making a few triggers for her to change positions or move while in a 'frozen' state like a robot/mannequin (awkwardly/stiffly, in unnatural fashion) would net you a few more fans who enjoy this type of thing.
As for the model's physical attributes, as long as she is somewhat pretty/cute and a good 'subject' there will be no complaints. She should be fairly young (18-28) and pleasant-looking with a good attitude. Hopefully, it will be a fun and interesting experience for her in the end.
Best of luck!
I think most of the suggestions boil down to a few key ideas:
1. Quality freezes: This places emphasis on not just how much freezing there is but rather on how 'good' the freezing is.
What makes a good freeze is a) how stiff she looks (limbs staying in place, etc.), b) how aware or unaware she is (blank eyes staring straight ahead or fixed looking somewhere), and c) how it is conducted (so lots of camera angles and model repositioning (head, limbs, legs) is encouraged, including carrying her). For example, one of Lord Hypno's best subjects would freeze in a sitting position, and as he tried to lift her up her knees would remain locked and bent - he had to physically straighten her legs to stand her up.
2. Get creative: I realize this would be your first movie so obviously you will be learning as you go, but many of us have seen a lot of freezing by a lot of different women, both actresses and hypnotic subjects. We are looking for something new, so any ideas with some originality to them will make your work stand out.
A few ideas that may be good (and have been rarely seen):
I - Extend the freezes enough for you to have fun with them. Putting the girl in awkward positions (sometimes ridiculous) will be very successful. The more unnatural things are the better. Or you could even freeze her and display her as a mannequin for a few minutes, even placing her on a pedestal with a glass base (etc.) Test the limits of the freeze's power over her.
II - Changing costumes - this is a bit tricky but if your model is ok with some nudity you can use freezing to change her clothes while she is unaware. This is rarely seen but I feel would be quite popular.
III - Incorporate some action into the freezing - this is where many people differ, but I think there is a substantial amount of fans that enjoy seeing women move while 'under control'. Making a few triggers for her to change positions or move while in a 'frozen' state like a robot/mannequin (awkwardly/stiffly, in unnatural fashion) would net you a few more fans who enjoy this type of thing.
As for the model's physical attributes, as long as she is somewhat pretty/cute and a good 'subject' there will be no complaints. She should be fairly young (18-28) and pleasant-looking with a good attitude. Hopefully, it will be a fun and interesting experience for her in the end.
Best of luck!
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I'd just say avoid the classic mistakes of amateur video.
Im sure there are plenty of websites with details:
Some basics:
Do practice shooting with your camera of similar situations, in the room you'll shoot in, and watch the results before you start shooting real scenes.
**Proper lighting**
A steady hand or a tripod
Know how to use the focus.
Know how to edit
stuff like that
For the girls:
-a lot of chicks don't look so hot nude, specially a lot of chicks in amateur erotica , You judge for us, Sometimes clothes on is better, from other vids I saw, chicks that don't do nudity are usually prettier than chicks who do nudity, IMHO
-a lot of blinking ruins freezes, either they have to not blink, or you can edit the movie to reduce blinks
-2 hours means you can probably do lots of variations to please everyone, it could be 12 ten-minute skits or 8 15-minute skits of different freezes, slow-downs and controls.
My dream case:
One I didn't see much is a GOOD robot, not walking like Frankenstein, but maybe most people under hypnosis only can come up with the Frankenstein walk or bent arms when the hypnotists just says "you are a robot!"
Instead of that, maybe the robot that thinks it is human, but you control her with a remote or switches on her body, and she keeps a human personality, becoming more and more shocked about the situation,like she can't move her arm, or can't see anymore, or she got turned off-moved-and turned on again, then maybe her personality Crashes like a blue screen of death into a freeze.
But how to get the hypnotist to run the scenario might be tricky writing.
Im sure there are plenty of websites with details:
Some basics:
Do practice shooting with your camera of similar situations, in the room you'll shoot in, and watch the results before you start shooting real scenes.
**Proper lighting**
A steady hand or a tripod
Know how to use the focus.
Know how to edit
stuff like that
For the girls:
-a lot of chicks don't look so hot nude, specially a lot of chicks in amateur erotica , You judge for us, Sometimes clothes on is better, from other vids I saw, chicks that don't do nudity are usually prettier than chicks who do nudity, IMHO
-a lot of blinking ruins freezes, either they have to not blink, or you can edit the movie to reduce blinks
-2 hours means you can probably do lots of variations to please everyone, it could be 12 ten-minute skits or 8 15-minute skits of different freezes, slow-downs and controls.
My dream case:
One I didn't see much is a GOOD robot, not walking like Frankenstein, but maybe most people under hypnosis only can come up with the Frankenstein walk or bent arms when the hypnotists just says "you are a robot!"
Instead of that, maybe the robot that thinks it is human, but you control her with a remote or switches on her body, and she keeps a human personality, becoming more and more shocked about the situation,like she can't move her arm, or can't see anymore, or she got turned off-moved-and turned on again, then maybe her personality Crashes like a blue screen of death into a freeze.
But how to get the hypnotist to run the scenario might be tricky writing.
I'd pay 15-20$ but thats only because that's as much as I can afford right now.
I have a suggestion for a skit or an incorporation. Have a command that makes her unaware of your presense. IMHO something that would compliment that would be a sorta dettached command ex: if you touch her, she won't feel it and if you move her clothes, she won't notice anything. If you move objects in the room, she wouldn't notice anything was moving because you were doing it. So let's say she's taking a shower, you give the command that makes her unaware, you could open the door and she'd here that, getting spooked or you could give the dettachment command and then she wouldn't notice you opening and entering the bathroom.
Another thing that I've always wanted to see would be waht I call "static interference". Let's say that she's eating, you're invisible to her and she won't notice anything you do, but you can freeze her by preventing her from moving. What I mean by this is, when she goes to take a bite of food, you can simply put your hand on hers and even though she'd try and keep going foward, she would eventually give up and freeze.
I dunno, I've got some strange ideas.
I have a suggestion for a skit or an incorporation. Have a command that makes her unaware of your presense. IMHO something that would compliment that would be a sorta dettached command ex: if you touch her, she won't feel it and if you move her clothes, she won't notice anything. If you move objects in the room, she wouldn't notice anything was moving because you were doing it. So let's say she's taking a shower, you give the command that makes her unaware, you could open the door and she'd here that, getting spooked or you could give the dettachment command and then she wouldn't notice you opening and entering the bathroom.
Another thing that I've always wanted to see would be waht I call "static interference". Let's say that she's eating, you're invisible to her and she won't notice anything you do, but you can freeze her by preventing her from moving. What I mean by this is, when she goes to take a bite of food, you can simply put your hand on hers and even though she'd try and keep going foward, she would eventually give up and freeze.
I dunno, I've got some strange ideas.
Seize the moment.
Literally.
Literally.
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Danai
Points taken
Thank you very much for all the feedback. I am in the process of revising my skits to include all the points raised. I will post a revised version of the skit in the next day or so - and then will begin production in about two weeks from now.
Cheers,
Cheers,
Ideas, hopefully not TOO late
I wanted to contribute a couple of ideas, though the earlier posts cover most of the basics:
You might want to include a short interview afterward with the actress, letting her tell you about the experience and how she felt while posing as frozen and if she used any special techniques to remain still.
Presuming (hoping) this video does well, look towards your next one telling a story of some sort. For some reason, freezing works better in context and of course you could have some other character 'play off of' the frozen one(s).
Oh, I'd pay anywhere up to $50 for a good video on DVD (no blu-ray or copy protection please!) PG-13 or 'soft' R seems about right.
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You might want to include a short interview afterward with the actress, letting her tell you about the experience and how she felt while posing as frozen and if she used any special techniques to remain still.
Presuming (hoping) this video does well, look towards your next one telling a story of some sort. For some reason, freezing works better in context and of course you could have some other character 'play off of' the frozen one(s).
Oh, I'd pay anywhere up to $50 for a good video on DVD (no blu-ray or copy protection please!) PG-13 or 'soft' R seems about right.
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p.s. Go For It!
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Re: Hypnosis DVDs for sale. Women hypnotized to perform
Great clips, but any chance of the nudity being put into any of the previews?Anonymous wrote:http://autocommandhypnosis.com/
My project. Hope its up to your specs, thanks guys
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ACHer, I activated your account. try it again. Also I deleted your 2nd, and 3rd account's. did you really want 3 accounts or just kept trying when the 1st one didn't work? To note all new users are manually approved by me because spammers are registering for accounts 3-6 times a day. This could take up to 24 hours or more after registering before you can login.Anonymous wrote:http://autocommandhypnosis.com/
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