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Questions!

Post by JordanaLeigh » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:03 pm

So, I really love making the Paint/Statue clips now, and am aiming to make more. but, I have a few questions about what you guys like..

So, two questions...

First of all, I was curious how many of you liked Silver and/or Bronze paint, as well as gold? I want to use some different colors...

And the second thin i am curious about.. I noticed that a lot of the Paint storylines have to do with Magic (king midas, genies, magic drinks, etc) Do all of you guys ONLY like those type of story lines?? Or are some regular, every day stories okay too?

anyway, any input is appreciated!

thanks,
Jordana :-)

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Re: Questions!

Post by simonjedi » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:17 pm

I prefer gold, but i do like silver (especially when it's done right). Bronze has never really crossed my mind... it may be a cool idea.

Any stories are fine with me. Magic tends to be the main thing just because it's an easy way of getting it going. There's a lot of 'science experiment' videos about which is cool. A few customs of mine involved guns and gilding chambers.

If you can think of a good idea, go for it.

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Re: Questions!

Post by fembotfan » Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:04 pm

A silver body paint shoot based on nano-robots may be a fun shoot. If you would like a script outline just pm me.

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Re: Questions!

Post by Wishmaster » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:48 pm

I've enjoyed your paint videos. I enjoy magic as a theme, and prefer the focus is on the transformation. In general, the bondage / "trapped" theme is what I prefer. Turnabouts, villains getting their comeuppance, arrogant/dominant people getting things reversed etc. I suppose I enjoy the more sinister themes.

As for colors. Gold / silver seems to look better than bronze. I think it has to do with bronze tending to show up as dark spots, where as gold/silver really reflects the lights better.

Something many here has looked for, but has been hard to accomplish is an artificial "plastic" look. More than gold/silver, I like the idea of transforming people into dolls or mannequins. The high gloss skin tone + joint lines and perhaps the "smoothing over" of the naughty parts really adds to the effect. This is a particular niche that is completely untouched. Where most studios lump "we stopped time or freeze" with "mannequin / doll", I feel many resent that. Transformation themed stuff just has a different emphasis from timestop. It's not so much that you stopped the person, its more about taking control and transforming them (potentially against their will). Objectification, human furniture, also would probably be a hit around here.

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Re: Questions!

Post by JordanaLeigh » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:23 am

hey guys! thanks so much for your replies! ALL those ideas are great. i do have bronze paint, so i wanted to try it, at some point (if anyone has a cool idea for it, can you email me? modeljordana1422@gmail.com)

and @fembotfan, solver for a robot theme is actually an awesome idea! i never even thought of that. can you email me some ideas at modeljordana1422@gmail.com instread of pm?

and @wishmaster, i sO want to do a mannequin theme! ive been thinking about the ebst way to do it forever. most people say just pale makeup foundation and rubber bands, but i still cant quite grasp the best/easiest way to do it! there must be an easier way

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Re: Questions!

Post by persephone » Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:49 am

If you want to do copper bodypaint... Do it secret agent, art deco art thief.

The thing that pops into my mind is a "lamp" of a copper woman holding up this globe of light from the 20s or something.

You're a secret agent of some sort and there's been numerous thefts of art deco pieces, so you're sent undercover, but the thief then freezes you somehow into his collection.

The plot is variable, but it's all I can think of for copper.

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Re: Questions!

Post by greneker03 » Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:03 am

JordanaLeigh wrote:hey guys! thanks so much for your replies! ALL those ideas are great. i do have bronze paint, so i wanted to try it, at some point (if anyone has a cool idea for it, can you email me? modeljordana1422@gmail.com)

and @fembotfan, solver for a robot theme is actually an awesome idea! i never even thought of that. can you email me some ideas at modeljordana1422@gmail.com instread of pm?

and @wishmaster, i sO want to do a mannequin theme! ive been thinking about the ebst way to do it forever. most people say just pale makeup foundation and rubber bands, but i still cant quite grasp the best/easiest way to do it! there must be an easier way
Jordana, I emailed you on what type of makeup to use. A more elaborate way would be to try liquid latex in the flesh tone variety. You can purchase a quart for around 30 dollars. You will need to apply several coats to really make it effective.

The important thing is to make the body look conistant so it appears as if it has been painted, covering all parts, including nipples and lower regions.

even the use of a bald cap and some wigs can transistion the idea into a more inanimate appearance.
You can also look at a display rod and stand to make her appear as if shes been placed upon it.


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Re: Questions!

Post by JordanaLeigh » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:44 am

thanks! i will email you from my personal email...

im also confused on what to use for the separations too though!

and how about BRONZE paint?

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Re: Questions!

Post by juva » Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:30 am

Question for you now.. :) When are we going to see the new gold video? I have seen the little pic and am intrigued. :mrgreen:

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Re: Questions!

Post by Ice_Fiend » Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:29 pm

JordanaLeigh wrote:hey guys! thanks so much for your replies! ALL those ideas are great. i do have bronze paint, so i wanted to try it, at some point (if anyone has a cool idea for it, can you email me? modeljordana1422@gmail.com)

and @fembotfan, solver for a robot theme is actually an awesome idea! i never even thought of that. can you email me some ideas at modeljordana1422@gmail.com instread of pm?

and @wishmaster, i sO want to do a mannequin theme! ive been thinking about the ebst way to do it forever. most people say just pale makeup foundation and rubber bands, but i still cant quite grasp the best/easiest way to do it! there must be an easier way
Best/easiest way to do the mannequin/clearcoated look is to go with a body oil of some kind. Something like vegetable or baby oil to give the skin that slick, almost plastic look would work amazingly. Though I'm not as big a fan of the separation lines; going for more of the "coated in substance that solidifies the skin and body" like a clearcoat statue seems much more attractive and easier to pull off. You could do something where the victim either a) is taking a shower where the water is laced with a substance that solidifies the body, and then have a later clip where you're covered in a layer of oil to show off the glossy solid look, or b) have someone with a spray bottle filled with a "special chemical" spray the victim while restrained, show them slowly stiffening up and finally freezing, then a fade out and back in to their body with the oil on.

Just a few ideas of mine. If you're interested in some more let me know...


Also...
juva wrote:Question for you now.. :) When are we going to see the new gold video? I have seen the little pic and am intrigued. :mrgreen:
What pics are you talking about? What new gold video? I'M INTRIGUED!

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Re: Questions!

Post by juva » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:26 pm

There was a pic on Twitter a few weeks back

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Re: Questions!

Post by JordanaLeigh » Sat May 02, 2015 8:18 pm

hey! i just saw this (this board doesn't notify me when i get emails, for some reason!). anyway, i will definitely put the Gold video up soon. I also made a silver one last week, with a new model. I like to switch up the content though.

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Re: Questions!

Post by JordanaLeigh » Sat May 02, 2015 8:23 pm

Best/easiest way to do the mannequin/clearcoated look is to go with a body oil of some kind. Something like vegetable or baby oil to give the skin that slick, almost plastic look would work amazingly. Though I'm not as big a fan of the separation lines; going for more of the "coated in substance that solidifies the skin and body" like a clearcoat statue seems much more attractive and easier to pull off. You could do something where the victim either a) is taking a shower where the water is laced with a substance that solidifies the body, and then have a later clip where you're covered in a layer of oil to show off the glossy solid look, or b) have someone with a spray bottle filled with a "special chemical" spray the victim while restrained, show them slowly stiffening up and finally freezing, then a fade out and back in to their body with the oil on.
Hey Ice_Fiend! Thanks for your input. I have a question..

Do you mean JUST use babel? Many people are telling me to use Foundation over the entire body. Are you suggesting JUST baby oil?

And also, I'd love to hear your other ideas!! Email me at modeljordana1422@gmail.com or you can write them on here.

I actually did a mannequin freeze clip with a spray bottle a few months ago (that i haven't put up yet!),, but i didnt use anything for the 'mannequin look/, because i didnt think of it at the time!

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Re: Questions!

Post by hto355 » Sun May 03, 2015 12:07 am

Hello Jordana, I'd like to see this mannequin clip, I hope you post it soon.

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Re: Questions!

Post by dmuk » Sun May 03, 2015 1:04 pm

Jordana,

In addition to the shiny/painted look for mannequins, and of course the static frozen pose, the facial and eye make-up should also be emphasized, with "evening" eye shadow and long lashes, distinct blusher, and clearly defined lips. This is a subtle boundary because too much and they look more doll-like (good for that part of ASFR, less so for the mannequin). Consider using a styled (almost lacquered) wig instead of a bald cap, especially if the mannequin is shown on display in a window or case. Little touches, like separation points (I agree it's too easy to go overboard here), the standing-place (a glass plate or some sort of support pole) and possibly price tags on the displayed garments really helps "sell" the effect. Whether the immobilized mannequin is moved around (carried on a cart, lifted into position) can be effective if the figure appears to remain totally rigid while being moved; this is often difficult to achieve even with hypnosis. Blinking, too, unless it's during the induction, can break the illusion (of course there's a variation where the mannequins do blink and even struggle speech, but that should be part of the plot/scene and not an unintentional side effect).

As for stories, you can adapt some of my mannequin-themed ones from the LTBSA (now hosted at p-synd) or many of the suggestions from this forum; I like the security-guard motif since it's short and allows interaction with other mannequins too (some of which could be previous captures).

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Re: Questions!

Post by JordanaLeigh » Sun May 03, 2015 5:33 pm

here is the mannequin clip, i just put up. please note, that i did it a few months ago, before i really grasped the idea of how to do mannequins properly. but i still think its a good clip, and Macy is awesome at frozen facial expressions.

http://www.clips4sale.com/86509/13460666

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Re: Questions!

Post by JordanaLeigh » Sun May 03, 2015 5:40 pm

dmuk wrote:Jordana,

In addition to the shiny/painted look for mannequins, and of course the static frozen pose, the facial and eye make-up should also be emphasized, with "evening" eye shadow and long lashes, distinct blusher, and clearly defined lips. This is a subtle boundary because too much and they look more doll-like (good for that part of ASFR, less so for the mannequin). Consider using a styled (almost lacquered) wig instead of a bald cap, especially if the mannequin is shown on display in a window or case. Little touches, like separation points (I agree it's too easy to go overboard here), the standing-place (a glass plate or some sort of support pole) and possibly price tags on the displayed garments really helps "sell" the effect. Whether the immobilized mannequin is moved around (carried on a cart, lifted into position) can be effective if the figure appears to remain totally rigid while being moved; this is often difficult to achieve even with hypnosis. Blinking, too, unless it's during the induction, can break the illusion (of course there's a variation where the mannequins do blink and even struggle speech, but that should be part of the plot/scene and not an unintentional side effect).

As for stories, you can adapt some of my mannequin-themed ones from the LTBSA (now hosted at p-synd) or many of the suggestions from this forum; I like the security-guard motif since it's short and allows interaction with other mannequins too (some of which could be previous captures).

-D-
and, wow...im not gonna lie... that sounds complicated! im actually having someone build me a pedestal, that i should have within a few months. but until then, i can try it without that... im honestly still a little confused about whether to use mankeup or oil (or both?), and if makeup, what kind..

im also still blank on story ideas. i would prefer you guys to tell me what you like. ill look around on this forum, but i havent really seen anything ive been ABLE to do yet. i dont have a male to help me right now and the "carrying around', and i can only shoot with 1-2 other girls at once, so i cant do some of those exact scenarios. what is LTBSA?

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Post by simonjedi » Sun May 03, 2015 7:33 pm

There are a few ideas i've used before..

Trophy wife/mistress - The woman is a bit of a prick to her husband / the husband has a mistress who wants the wife out of the picture. They are given a rig ir necklace that turnscthem into a statue or mannequin or whatever.

"Jordana's Jewels" basically a long running series where you invite models to pose for a statue project. They end up as the project and gilded and frozen. New models in each one similar to the old models of miss midas series. you get your comeuppance in the final one.

I have been toying with the idea of the following. it's rough so bear with me.

one of your models is an estate agent who has brought a pretty crappy house. Inside theres a gold statue. things happencand the statue comes to life turning the estate agent into another statue who joins her to be frozen forever.

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Post by Ice_Fiend » Sun May 03, 2015 10:46 pm

simonjedi wrote:There are a few ideas i've used before..

Trophy wife/mistress - The woman is a bit of a prick to her husband / the husband has a mistress who wants the wife out of the picture. They are given a rig ir necklace that turnscthem into a statue or mannequin or whatever.

"Jordana's Jewels" basically a long running series where you invite models to pose for a statue project. They end up as the project and gilded and frozen. New models in each one similar to the old models of miss midas series. you get your comeuppance in the final one.

I have been toying with the idea of the following. it's rough so bear with me.

one of your models is an estate agent who has brought a pretty crappy house. Inside theres a gold statue. things happencand the statue comes to life turning the estate agent into another statue who joins her to be frozen forever.
I love the second and last scenario; go with these ideas!
JordanaLeigh wrote:
Best/easiest way to do the mannequin/clearcoated look is to go with a body oil of some kind. Something like vegetable or baby oil to give the skin that slick, almost plastic look would work amazingly. Though I'm not as big a fan of the separation lines; going for more of the "coated in substance that solidifies the skin and body" like a clearcoat statue seems much more attractive and easier to pull off. You could do something where the victim either a) is taking a shower where the water is laced with a substance that solidifies the body, and then have a later clip where you're covered in a layer of oil to show off the glossy solid look, or b) have someone with a spray bottle filled with a "special chemical" spray the victim while restrained, show them slowly stiffening up and finally freezing, then a fade out and back in to their body with the oil on.
Hey Ice_Fiend! Thanks for your input. I have a question..

Do you mean JUST use babel? Many people are telling me to use Foundation over the entire body. Are you suggesting JUST baby oil?

And also, I'd love to hear your other ideas!! Email me at modeljordana1422@gmail.com or you can write them on here.

I actually did a mannequin freeze clip with a spray bottle a few months ago (that i haven't put up yet!),, but i didnt use anything for the 'mannequin look/, because i didnt think of it at the time!
I don't know what Foundation is, but if it gives off the glossy/clearcoat effect, then go for it. As long as you get that shine on the skin, it will work. But to be honest, Olive Oil might work too; I don't know, because I can't find any info on what some porn models specifically use. But try out Baby and Olive oil at the least, to see what kind of shine it gives your skin. Maybe give sample pics first before making videos to get a verdict on whether or not the oil works, that way you don't waste precious film time.

The thing is though, half of it is trying to nail the look, the other half is acting. What I mean is, there's something about watching or listening as the victim slowly looses control of her movement (but not TOO slowly, mind you) that is inherently a turn on. Basically as the wave of stiffness finally reaches the face, the voice should start getting clipped and spaced out like "NO! It's reached my...neck. It's getting...really hard.......to......think.................thi.................nk-***" or something similar.

And now that I hear that you've got a pedestal coming, I do have an idea or two you can use! I'll send you the info by mail.

And if you only have 1-2 other girls around, then you can work with just having them tip you over while you hold your pose, and stuff like that, until you can get a male to help actually carry you around.

Yeah, I think that's everything. Do you guys have any more suggestions for her on what to use for that "plastic/lacquer/clearcoat skin" look? Because this is all the suggestion I can give for it...

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Re: Questions!

Post by dmuk » Mon May 04, 2015 3:25 pm

JordanaLeigh wrote:and, wow...im not gonna lie... that sounds complicated! im actually having someone build me a pedestal, that i should have within a few months. but until then, i can try it without that... im honestly still a little confused about whether to use makeup or oil (or both?), and if makeup, what kind..
Well since there are a lot of different things folks like to see, try a few combinations and see what kind of feedback you get. In my opinion, the appearance of the mannequin actress in the movie "Mannequin" was just about perfect...
JordanaLeigh wrote:I'm also still blank on story ideas. . . .
what is LTBSA?
That is the Legacy of Timeless Beauty Story Archive (LTBSA), which has almost (over?) a thousand tales of ASFR-ish situations, loosely categorized. Find it at http://www.p-synd.com/LTBSA/index.html

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Re: Questions!

Post by JordanaLeigh » Mon May 04, 2015 6:44 pm

Thank you so much everyone! You've all been so helpful :-)
"Jordana's Jewels" basically a long running series where you invite models to pose for a statue project. They end up as the project and gilded and frozen. New models in each one similar to the old models of miss midas series. you get your comeuppance in the final one.
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I really like the 'Jordana's Jewels' idea, Simon! I'm definitely gonna go with that oe, since it allows me to do multiple scenarios over and over, with different girls..

I don't know what Foundation is, but if it gives off the glossy/clearcoat effect, then go for it. As long as you get that shine on the skin, it will work. But to be honest, Olive Oil might work too; I don't know, because I can't find any info on what some porn models specifically use. But try out Baby and Olive oil at the least, to see what kind of shine it gives your skin. Maybe give sample pics first before making videos to get a verdict on whether or not the oil works, that way you don't waste precious film time.
One more question, if you guys don't mind...(maybe i should start a new thread..?).. Besides the Mannequin and Paint scenarios, what types of Freeze clips do you like?? I noticed that some don't sell so well, and others sell great and i don't seem to see any type of pattern, so its frustrating!!! So i am really trying to grasp the concept of what you guys like about it.. i know one of the main things is the helplessness of the girl turning into a statue. But how about regular back and forth freezing?

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Re: Questions!

Post by el salvador » Wed May 06, 2015 5:32 am

JordanaLeigh wrote:But how about regular back and forth freezing?
this is what im into. i prefer the traditional sense of freezing more then the statue or mannequin themes.

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Post by meh » Thu May 07, 2015 9:01 pm

JordanaLeigh wrote: One more question, if you guys don't mind...(maybe i should start a new thread..?).. Besides the Mannequin and Paint scenarios, what types of Freeze clips do you like?? I noticed that some don't sell so well, and others sell great and i don't seem to see any type of pattern, so its frustrating!!! So i am really trying to grasp the concept of what you guys like about it.. i know one of the main things is the helplessness of the girl turning into a statue. But how about regular back and forth freezing?
I'm not at all into the statue and painted stuff so I haven't commented until now. I'm into basic freezing, being able to stop people in a moment and admire them in that point in time when everything froze.
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Re: Questions!

Post by juva » Mon May 11, 2015 8:43 am

JordanaLeigh wrote:hey! i just saw this (this board doesn't notify me when i get emails, for some reason!). anyway, i will definitely put the Gold video up soon. I also made a silver one last week, with a new model. I like to switch up the content though.
Oh you are so evil. You can't tease me like that. :twisted:

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Re: Questions!

Post by simonjedi » Mon May 11, 2015 12:31 pm

If you think THAT'S evil. She did film another bronze one over the weekend.

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